Richard and Carlos had opposite views on the subject of trust. Richard believed, and openly said, “trust willingly, at all opportunity, to whomever, wherever, again & again even if things go awry, or betrayal occurs, even repeatedly. Trust & never let go of that trust. Be a vehicle of trust. For what damage occurs take responsibility. If your trust is abused, consume that abuse & grow weak but remain strong in trust. Trust is a given, there is nothing anyone can do to violate your trust, because it is automatic & irrefutable. Always at all times, you leave everything on the line. You accept & will process all consequences however good or bad they may be. Never wavering, you trust in all things, at all times, no matter what happens or happened.” Carlos believed, based on a loose translation from spanish to english, “Trust thyself and no one else, neither no one nor nothing has your trust. It is yours and yours alone. Do not trust in her, in him, in them, in us. Son las nada. You trust in you. In you there will never be any form of betrayal. You cannot betray yourself. You give the same kind of irrefutable trust Richard speaks of, except here you concentrate– all what he stretches out– into you and yourself. No one will betray you–they never had your trust for which to betray. Just as people do not have it, nothing else does nor will either, never. You do not trust the ant walking on your leg. It’s not that you expect it to bite. It’s just that you don’t trust it. You will flick it off if you feel like it.” And to which Richard appreciates the ant line because he understands the views of Carlos. And Richard also sees how differently he would treat the ant on his leg. How his body is a vehicle of trust, “And so let the ant bite if it feels like it. I or we will absorb the pain and carry on,” “Carry on,” Carl says again, as he wavers between the options.